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How the Strength of Steel is Determined in the Bending World

Wednesday, February 1st, 2012

The Strength of Steel and Bending Stock

Over the years, lots of people have asked me questions about the strength of steel and bending stock. Because steel bending can be so obsessive, and the need to constantly bend more stuff can overtake an individual so intensely, it can be easy to understand why so many people are hungry for this knowledge.

Common Questions about Bending Stock Strength

Here are some of the types of questions I get most often:

“How Strong is my Steel?”
People will be bending a certain nail, bolt or piece of stock and want to know if it is a good bend or not. This is understandable, because people like to know where they stand.

“What nail/bolt/stock should I go to next if I am bending THIS and want to bend THAT?”
Most people want to ultimately be able to bend a certain bar, whether it is the Red Nail or some other high level bend like the Bastard from Fat Bastard Barbell or the Battle Bar from Benders Battlefield. Along the road to this goal it’s nice to know which bends to attempt along the way.

“How far am I from the Red Nail if I am bending this or that…”
Sometimes people are seeing progress by cutting what they can bend down to shorter lengths, or they have been moving up to harder graded bolts or slightly thicker stock, but they still want to know how far away they are from their goal.

And there are many, many more questions I receive about the strength of bending stock.

Comparing Strengths of Various Pieces of Bending Stock

There is a system that is used to rate the strength level of bars. This has proven to be quite useful in getting an idea of where different bars lie in relationship to one another, and it even works well for a variety of different stock, including Round Steel, Graded Bolts, Drill Rod, and even square and hex steel.

This system was innovated by Eric Milfeld and later Mike Krahling. These are just the guys that I am most aware of in the United States who are doing it. There may indeed be many more who are doing this.

This process involves special attachments that are put onto the bending stock being rated, followed by using the steel to pull against weight until it bends to the desired angle. Once the stock bends to that angle, it is assigned its strength level.

This process is often labeled “calibration,” although there has also been debate about whether that is the proper term. Perhaps a better term to describe it would be simply “rating the stock.”

Regardless of what you call this process, it has proven to be a fairly reliable method for a solid comparison tool, as well as something to base your progressions and purchases upon.

In the video below, Mike Krahling demonstrates the process of rating the strength of a steel bar.

Now, what you see here is just one bar being rated, but over the years, many bars have been rated and also logged for comparison at the AZ Grip website. You can see the strength comparison chart here: Steel Bending Progressions.

Now, there are limits to this process, and that needs to be understood from the beginning.

For instance, steel varies and it can vary quite a bit. Just because you bought a Red Nail back in 2004 does not mean that a Red Nail that you buy right now will rate out at the exact same number. New stock might have been selected to be used at some point. (Of course, the Red Nail is still a Beast to bend, so no disrespect to IronMind.)

Variance of Steel Strength

As I point out in this post, Strength Variations of Steel, it is possible to see strength variance within the same piece of steel. Remember that steel is created in long lengths and then cut down in order to bend in shorter lengths. There can be quite a bit of variation within one of those virgin bars pulled out at the factory. So in that regard, you have to understand that just because you buy a 7-inch by 5/16-inch length of Cold Rolled Steel, it does not guarantee that you are ready to certify on the Red Nail, even though the Red Nail, too, is 7 X 5/16 CRS.

Variance in Steel Strength & Differences by Length

Also, you have to remember that you must take the readings of bars of different lengths very carefully. For instance, if you look at that chart, it lists the Red Nail, 7 X 5/16 in length and diameter, at 420-lbs in order to bend. Also, that chart lists a Linear “S” Grade 5 Bolt 6 X 1/4 in length and diameter at 425. An assumption that has often been made is that if one can bend that Linear “S” Grade 5 Bolt, then they surely must be able to bend the Red Nail, which is rated at 5-lbs lighter.

Unfortunately, this assumption is completely wrong, because the Grade 5 bolt is only 6 inches long, meaning there is less leverage available to produce a bend using the testing device. In reality, if the Grade 5 in question were 7-inches long, it would feel like bending a coat-hanger.

Comparing Different Bars

So, as you utilize the chart, make sure that you remember that comparisons should be made between different pieces of stock of the same length only. Also remember that the way the calibrating set-up bends the bar is not completely the same as the way the bar bends when you bend it, so just because a piece of stock rates higher than another piece of stock using the device, does not necessarily mean it will feel harder to bend when you try it.

Solid Resource

Even with this handful of limitations, the “Steel Progression Chart” is a very good resource for you in your bending training. It has been an extremely helpful tool for both new benders looking for ways to progress in their bending, as well as seasoned veterans who are looking for stepping stones to their ultimate bending goal.

In fact, I reference this chart quite often with my coaching clients who are looking for progressions in their steel bending programs. And now, it is a tool you can place in your toolbox to reference whenever you need it.

All the best in your bending,

Jedd

Dennis and Pat Perform at the Arnold

Thursday, March 10th, 2011


Footage via amuricankb on YouTube

Above, you’ll see Dennis Rogers (who happens to be a Diesel Iron Master) and Pat Povilaitis performing prior to the Mighty Mitts competition at the Arnold Strength Expo from last weekend.

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Week 6 Submissions & Week 7 Feat

Monday, February 14th, 2011

There were only two submissions last week, and Josh McIntyre came out on top.

Is there anyone who can beat Josh McIntyre in the Diesel Crew Grip Feat of the Week?

Josh McIntyre (winner)


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The TRUTH About the Iron Tamer

Tuesday, January 11th, 2011


Three Red Nail, slain by the Iron Tamer David Whitley, IronTamer.com

The Steel Onslaught Continues

If you live near Nashville, TN and think you are smelling the aroma of molten lava streaming down the side of a volcano, that is actually the smell of Red Nails being melted with hand power by the Iron Tamer Dave Whitley.

A few months back, in preparation for the RKC, I gave Dave a call to ask for pointers for preparing for the snatch test.

During the conversation, he said that he had been bending recently and had just hit a Grade 8.

“Bro, you’re close to a Red Nail,” I said.

“Really??” he said back.

Over the course of the next few weeks, Dave continued to hit Grade 8′s, but could not tackle the Red.

Then I had him shoot a video of his technique so I could look at it.

Sure enough, he was Chicken Winging a bit.

We worked on his technique a bit over the phone and sure enough within a couple more weeks I heard back from Dave and he was kinking Red Nails.

A few weeks later, he finished off his first Red Nail.

Flash forward a few more weeks and he posted the picture at the top of this post on his blog, bending 4 Red Nails in one training session – AWESOME!

Check out what he had to say recently about the Nail Bending DVD

From Dave Whitley

    I could go on and on about Jedd, his expertise in grip strength etc., but I’ll keep it simple with this timeline…

    In late September 2010 I struggled to bend my first grade 8 bolt for about 7 minutes.

    On December 20th 2010 I bent FOUR Iron Mind Red Nails in less than an hour thanks to tips and advice Jedd gave me.

    A week later I was crushing them down in less than a minute.

    Jedd has put all the best information from his bending ebook and the stuff he has learned and developed since he wrote that book onto the Bending DVD.

    If you want to learn the modern bending trechniques, he is the guy who not only wrote the book, but also filmed the DVD on how to do it.

    Buy this DVD, put it into practice and crush steel.

    Iron Tamer Dave Whitley
    Master RKC instructor
    www.IronTamer.com

The TRUTH About Dave Whitley

In Dave’s case, it wasn’t just a matter of getting stronger that got him to the point of bending Red Nails like they are coat hangers.

Dave’s been wrecking steel, shredding cards and phone books, and twisting horseshoes FOR YEARS.

In the case of the Red Nail, Dave’s improvements primarily came from Technique Improvements.

Bending is highly technical and that is where the Nail Bending DVD makes the most difference for people.

By understanding the proper hand angles and ways to exert force into the steel, you can BLOW THROUGH your current PR’s and raise the bar way more quickly.

In the DVD, I show you Reverse Style, Double Overhand, and Double Underhand in detail. You can wrap up and bend your first nail or a new PR right along with me.

If your sick of being stuck at the same spot or if you want to get started the right way, the Nail Bending DVD will set you straight.

Get it here = > How to Bend Nails.

All the best in your training.

Jedd

Feedback on Nail Bending DVD

Wednesday, December 29th, 2010

Earlier this month, I released the Nail Bending DVD – How to Melt Steel with Your Bare Hands and the positive feedback has literally been rolling from all over the Nation and the World for that matter.

 Get Your Copy, NOW. Click here = > NAIL BENDING DVD

From Ben Edwards:

     Jedd,

    I got the DVD yesterday and watched the first half of it today. LOVE the 2004 Red Nail intro loop! I know a lot of guys that would literally consider the price of the DVD worth a few views of that video alone for motivational purposes. Have really been impressed with the amount of time and effort/knowledge that went into making that Bending DVD. Even guys like me with a very solid bending base will no doubt find something that will help them along their path to increased bending strength. I’ve taken notes on a few sections of the DVD and wanted to wait until my muscle relaxers wear off (I hurt myself on Monday – bulging disc!) before I watch that part a few times through and then take notes on that as well.

    Ben Edwards
    GoalOrientedTraining.com

From Rory Hickman:

     Hi Jedd,

    Thought I’d let you know the DVD arrived yesterday morning, I watched half yesterday and the other half this morning – absolutely awesome the whole way through! Just like your other products the video and sound quality are second only to the amazing content. I was blown away by the detail you went into just on wrapping, I’d never imagined there was so much to take into consideration and that was just the first 20 minutes or so. To be honest I could mention every section and say how good each was – but I’m not sure how many variations on the work ‘excellent’ I could come up with before it got repetitive…

    I’ve already tried out the band exercise for developing the flexibility to get into the proper DO-bending position – first couple of reps barely came within 6 inches of my neck but I was able to get closer each time – I can definitely see how it will help. The thumb stretch felt great too – mine sometimes get tight from working on the computer and drawing but I could feel the stretch really well.

    Love the DVD man, it’s got me completely fired up to melt some steel but I’m gonna take your advice and work back into it slowly. I’ve got a load of things to work on to get to the point where I’ll be bending anything impressive but with this I now actually know what I need to work on. Thanks for creating such an incredible product, it’s awesome that someone who’s at the competitive level you’re at is so willing to share so much of your training knowledge.

    Thanks again,

    Rory Hickman
    StrongerDesigns.com

 Get Your Copy, NOW. Click here = > NAIL BENDING DVD

From The Iron Tamer, Dave Whitley:

From Mike “The Machine” Bruce:

This DVD is steadily making its way across the entire globe.

Truly a world-wide phenomenon, here are some of the countries where the DVD has been purchased:

     United Kingdom

    Australia

    Germany

    Sweden

    France

    Thailand

    Canada (Just ordered TODAY!)

    Belgium (Another Country with Molten Steel!)

    Switzerland (Added 1/6/11)

And if you are in the United States, and think you hear the squeaky sound of suede being tightened on a bolt or the sweet smell of steel being melted by the power of hand strength, you probably live near a nail bender. Here are some of the cities where the DVD was purchased during the first week only.

     Rosemount, MN

    Sterling, VA

    Chicago, IL

    San Diego, CA

    Stafford, VA

    Shaw Air Force Base, SC

    Merritt Island, FL

    Jacksonville, FL

    Miami, FL

    (The State of Florida must be covered in molten steel by now!!!)

    Bloomfield, NJ

    Pittsburgh, PA

    Lawrence, KS

    San Bruno, CA

    Fayetteville, GA

    Burton, MI

    Cypress, CA

    Torrance, CA

    Madison, CT

    Moultonborough, NH

    Rock Creek, OH

    Tuscaloosa, AL

    Corona, CA

    (Expect Climate Changes in California in 2011 due to all the Nail Benders)

Thanks to everyone who has picked up the DVD!

Hearing good things about my products makes me glad that I put them out and fires me up to get the next one out there!

If you’d like to leave feedback about the DVD, please a comment in the section below…

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