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How the Strength of Steel is Determined in the Bending World

Wednesday, February 1st, 2012

The Strength of Steel and Bending Stock

Over the years, lots of people have asked me questions about the strength of steel and bending stock. Because steel bending can be so obsessive, and the need to constantly bend more stuff can overtake an individual so intensely, it can be easy to understand why so many people are hungry for this knowledge.

Common Questions about Bending Stock Strength

Here are some of the types of questions I get most often:

“How Strong is my Steel?”
People will be bending a certain nail, bolt or piece of stock and want to know if it is a good bend or not. This is understandable, because people like to know where they stand.

“What nail/bolt/stock should I go to next if I am bending THIS and want to bend THAT?”
Most people want to ultimately be able to bend a certain bar, whether it is the Red Nail or some other high level bend like the Bastard from Fat Bastard Barbell or the Battle Bar from Benders Battlefield. Along the road to this goal it’s nice to know which bends to attempt along the way.

“How far am I from the Red Nail if I am bending this or that…”
Sometimes people are seeing progress by cutting what they can bend down to shorter lengths, or they have been moving up to harder graded bolts or slightly thicker stock, but they still want to know how far away they are from their goal.

And there are many, many more questions I receive about the strength of bending stock.

Comparing Strengths of Various Pieces of Bending Stock

There is a system that is used to rate the strength level of bars. This has proven to be quite useful in getting an idea of where different bars lie in relationship to one another, and it even works well for a variety of different stock, including Round Steel, Graded Bolts, Drill Rod, and even square and hex steel.

This system was innovated by Eric Milfeld and later Mike Krahling. These are just the guys that I am most aware of in the United States who are doing it. There may indeed be many more who are doing this.

This process involves special attachments that are put onto the bending stock being rated, followed by using the steel to pull against weight until it bends to the desired angle. Once the stock bends to that angle, it is assigned its strength level.

This process is often labeled “calibration,” although there has also been debate about whether that is the proper term. Perhaps a better term to describe it would be simply “rating the stock.”

Regardless of what you call this process, it has proven to be a fairly reliable method for a solid comparison tool, as well as something to base your progressions and purchases upon.

In the video below, Mike Krahling demonstrates the process of rating the strength of a steel bar.

Now, what you see here is just one bar being rated, but over the years, many bars have been rated and also logged for comparison at the AZ Grip website. You can see the strength comparison chart here: Steel Bending Progressions.

Now, there are limits to this process, and that needs to be understood from the beginning.

For instance, steel varies and it can vary quite a bit. Just because you bought a Red Nail back in 2004 does not mean that a Red Nail that you buy right now will rate out at the exact same number. New stock might have been selected to be used at some point. (Of course, the Red Nail is still a Beast to bend, so no disrespect to IronMind.)

Variance of Steel Strength

As I point out in this post, Strength Variations of Steel, it is possible to see strength variance within the same piece of steel. Remember that steel is created in long lengths and then cut down in order to bend in shorter lengths. There can be quite a bit of variation within one of those virgin bars pulled out at the factory. So in that regard, you have to understand that just because you buy a 7-inch by 5/16-inch length of Cold Rolled Steel, it does not guarantee that you are ready to certify on the Red Nail, even though the Red Nail, too, is 7 X 5/16 CRS.

Variance in Steel Strength & Differences by Length

Also, you have to remember that you must take the readings of bars of different lengths very carefully. For instance, if you look at that chart, it lists the Red Nail, 7 X 5/16 in length and diameter, at 420-lbs in order to bend. Also, that chart lists a Linear “S” Grade 5 Bolt 6 X 1/4 in length and diameter at 425. An assumption that has often been made is that if one can bend that Linear “S” Grade 5 Bolt, then they surely must be able to bend the Red Nail, which is rated at 5-lbs lighter.

Unfortunately, this assumption is completely wrong, because the Grade 5 bolt is only 6 inches long, meaning there is less leverage available to produce a bend using the testing device. In reality, if the Grade 5 in question were 7-inches long, it would feel like bending a coat-hanger.

Comparing Different Bars

So, as you utilize the chart, make sure that you remember that comparisons should be made between different pieces of stock of the same length only. Also remember that the way the calibrating set-up bends the bar is not completely the same as the way the bar bends when you bend it, so just because a piece of stock rates higher than another piece of stock using the device, does not necessarily mean it will feel harder to bend when you try it.

Solid Resource

Even with this handful of limitations, the “Steel Progression Chart” is a very good resource for you in your bending training. It has been an extremely helpful tool for both new benders looking for ways to progress in their bending, as well as seasoned veterans who are looking for stepping stones to their ultimate bending goal.

In fact, I reference this chart quite often with my coaching clients who are looking for progressions in their steel bending programs. And now, it is a tool you can place in your toolbox to reference whenever you need it.

All the best in your bending,

Jedd

August is Classic Strongman Feats Month

Monday, August 1st, 2011

Hello DIESELS!

I have been thinking about doing this for quite some time (since about March) and I am finally going to do it.

August is Classic Strongman Feats Month at Diesel Crew for the Diesel Grip Strength Challenge.

We will be having the first ever On-line Grip Strength Tournament. Here’s a video talking about the Tournament.

The way this will work is you all will submit videos as is regularly done and a bracket will be formed at random from the submissions.

The bracket will look just like any Tournament Bracket, like the NSCA for example.

Each week, the submissions will go into a hat and be pulled at random to fill the bracket and whoever out-duels the other person either wins, loses or there is a draw.

This will be a 5-week tournament, and each week will be a different feat of strength.

This week, for Week 1 in the Classic Strongman Feats Tournament is Reverse Style Bending.

You can have your choice of bending stock from the following selections:

  • 40D Nail
  • 60D Twisted Spike
  • 60D Non-Twisted Spike
  • Grade 5 Bolt
  • Grade 8 Bolt
  • 6″ X 5/16″ Hot Rolled Steel Bar
  • 6″ X 5/16″ Cold Rolled Steel Bar

All of these items can be readily obtained through places like Ace Hardware, Home Depot, etc. Also, I have a bunch of Grade 5′s and Grade 8′s that I will send people for $1.50 apiece plus shipping.

To allow as many people to enter this Tournament as possible, almost all types of wraps will be allowed, meaning any soft material, such as towels, rags, denim, cordura, IronMind Pads (IMP’s), suede, etc,, as long as they are no longer than 12″ in length and 4.5″ in width. (**If you are not sure if your wraps count, please send me an email).

If you are wondering What Is a Grade 5 or a Grade 8 Bolt, then check out this video on my YouTube Channel = > What are Graded Bolts.

Rules of the Bend

  • Must use Reverse Style / Terminator Technique
  • No part of the lower arms below the elbow can touch the body during the bend
  • The Bend must be completed within 30 seconds
  • After the 30 seconds is complete, the bar must be bent to at least 40 degrees
  • The bar has to be straight before bending. Once you attempt a bar, you can not attempt it again.


Feel free to attempt multiple bends throughout the week
. Just make sure to send me your best bending video by 8PM on Friday, August 5, 2011.

How to Measure Your Bend

My buddy, Mike Rinderle has put together this video for you on how to measure your bent bars.

How to Wrap and Bend Reverse Style

Here is a video that I did showing how the Bars should be wrapped and how Reverse style is done.

Video Identification Requirements

  • Title: DieselCrew.com Grip Strength Challenge – Classic Strongman Feat Week 1
  • Description: http://www.dieselcrew.com Grip Strength Strongman Feats
  • Tags: grade 5 bolt bend, reverse bending, strongman feats

Alrighty DIESELS – get your best bends done and get me the videos.

Jedd

P.S. Need instructions on how to bend? Check out my Bending Resources below…

Nail Bending eBook = > How to Bend Nails

Nail Bending DVD
= > Nail Bending Explained

Beast In The East Steel Bending Comp

Sunday, May 8th, 2011

The “Beast In The East” Steel Bending Comp
Promoted by Mike Krahling
Submitted by Mike Rinderle

The Beast in the East Steel Bending Competition will be held this Saturday, May 14th, at 10AM. Some of the best steel benders in the United States will be converging on Exton, PA to compete for hundreds of dollars in cash and prizes.
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Killer Feedback from Happy Customers

Tuesday, February 15th, 2011

Even though I released the Nail Bending DVD over two months ago, the fantastic feedback continues to roll in. I really appreciate the kind words that you have been sending in, and I’d like to share more of it with you.

Get your copy of Nail Bending: How to Melt Steel with Your Bare Hands < = Click That Link

I’m a happy guy Jedd. At 2 different times today I was able to crush the yellow nail. Once at home and then Down at the gym after all the guys yanked on it, and couldn’t move it. So that’s 2 today full crush.

Your Dvd has helped me tons and I get new stuff from it every time I look at it. What a treasure. Thanks again for putting out a awesome product! I’m eyeballing that blue nail, LOL…
Tom Guthrie

I received this awesome DVD at the at the start of the year. Only two weeks in and I already have a growing pile of destroyed nails and a grin from ear to ear. Very informative, clear explanations of techniques from beginning to end with absolutely no confusion. The section on injury prevention and rehab
is worth the asking price alone. If you want to progress quickly and safely with this unique skill this is a great way to start. Thank You!!
Alastair Hart
Enthusiastic Newcomer from the UK

After reading the Bending eBook, I went out and bent a 7″ piece of CRS and a 6″ Piece of CRS! Imagine my disappointment when Ace Hardware didn’t have 60D nails!

I watched the DVD last night. The Technique, and Wrapping sections were priceless. The stretching, recovery, assistance drills, were like the icing on the cake! It’s like you let out ALL THE SECRETS!

I wondered how to wrap the head of the nail. It makes total sense now! More great stuff from Diesel Crew!!!

Marc M. McLellan
Special Investigative Support Technician, Federal Bureau of Prisons

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Nail Bending DVD Update

Tuesday, November 9th, 2010

The clock is ticking down and the Nail Bending DVD will be available in just a matter of days.

I’ve sent the master into the printing company. These guys are great and save me so much time I can’t even put it into words. They get the disks to you guys within a matter of days and I have never had a complaint from anyone about their service.

I’ve got all of the artwork ready for the disk. I think this is without a doubt the best artwork I have had made for any DVD I have put out. I work with Rory, from Stronger Designs and he is a blast. He never complains about how nit-picky I am and seems to virtually read my mind when I describe a new design to him. When you don’t have the patience or skills to mess with Photoshop, Rory is the guy to go to in order to get something designed, in my opinion.

Next, I am working on getting a software system in place to take orders. I guess in the internet world, this is called a “Shopping Cart.” Who knows? I’m much more comfortable busting my ass in the gym trying to pick stuff up than working with new software, so I have a dude that is going to work with me on this one too. I believe this step will help me serve all of you better by more easily processing payments.

I know lots of you are chomping at the bit to get your hands on this DVD so you can learn how to bend nails and other stock the right way. Nail bending is, after all, one of the coolest feats of strength there is!

Action Item for YOU! If you want to be notified of when this Game Breaking DVD comes out, sign up for my Bending Newsletter. People on this list will get a special price the first day the DVD goes on sale.

IMPORTANT: This will also serve as one of my primary newsletters going forward, so make sure to sign up so you don’t miss out on anything down the line, because I’ve got tons of stuff in the works…

So, go here to be notified of coming developments = > Nail Bending with Napalm.

All the best in your training,

Jedd