Comments on: Massive Thumb Pain http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain Strength and Conditioning for Elite Athletic Performance - Free Articles, Videos for Coaches, Fitness Professionals, Personal Trainers, Athletic Trainers, Physical Therapists for All Sports Mon, 14 May 2012 03:58:36 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mike T Nelson http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain/comment-page-1#comment-2770 Mike T Nelson Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:54:21 +0000 http://www.dieselcrew.com/?p=617#comment-2770 Hi there Jedd, Sorry for my delays here, Smitty has my contact info and it is on my blog so if you don't hear anything from me feel free to pester the crap out of me. The short answer is YES, I think there is a connection between your big toe pain 6 months ago and opposite side thumb pain now. So far, I have done this myself in a very very similar circumstances with 3 athletes (big toe and thumb work). One was an Olympic marathon runner that competed this past year in China. She had big toe pain for 1.5 years and had seen pretty much seen everyone in her country--not much helped. They wanted to do surgery and she refused. I looked at her opposite thumb and she had lost some basic mobility there. She literally could not move the middle joint in her thumb. It took us about 10 minutes to get it moving again and then she could (with lots of concentration) move it on her own then. Had her walk around a bit, and the pain in her opposite big toe went from a 6-7 (1-10 scale) to less than a 1. She was practically in tears. This is based off some concepts taught in Z Health R Phase. My guessitation is that opposite joint work seems to help in about 50-70% of athletes across the board done at a very simple level. Beyond that, I normally have to incorporate some stuff with the eyes, head (vestibular), and/or hands on just to hold tissue in a certain position. Keep me updated on how it goes. Whatever I can do to help Rock on Mike T Nelson PhD(c), Z Health Master Trainer michaelTnelson AT yahoo DOT com Hi there Jedd,

Sorry for my delays here, Smitty has my contact info and it is on my blog so if you don’t hear anything from me feel free to pester the crap out of me.

The short answer is YES, I think there is a connection between your big toe pain 6 months ago and opposite side thumb pain now.

So far, I have done this myself in a very very similar circumstances with 3 athletes (big toe and thumb work).

One was an Olympic marathon runner that competed this past year in China. She had big toe pain for 1.5 years and had seen pretty much seen everyone in her country–not much helped. They wanted to do surgery and she refused.

I looked at her opposite thumb and she had lost some basic mobility there. She literally could not move the middle joint in her thumb. It took us about 10 minutes to get it moving again and then she could (with lots of concentration) move it on her own then. Had her walk around a bit, and the pain in her opposite big toe went from a 6-7 (1-10 scale) to less than a 1. She was practically in tears.

This is based off some concepts taught in Z Health R Phase.

My guessitation is that opposite joint work seems to help in about 50-70% of athletes across the board done at a very simple level. Beyond that, I normally have to incorporate some stuff with the eyes, head (vestibular), and/or hands on just to hold tissue in a certain position.

Keep me updated on how it goes. Whatever I can do to help
Rock on
Mike T Nelson
PhD(c), Z Health Master Trainer
michaelTnelson AT yahoo DOT com

]]> By: Chris Knappenberger http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain/comment-page-1#comment-2760 Chris Knappenberger Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:20:52 +0000 http://www.dieselcrew.com/?p=617#comment-2760 Hey Jedd I was thinking of you and my chiropractor now has a laser system he just started using to help promote healing If you want, Email me and I will give you his number to get more information he's been using on some guys with problems and has had good results. I was having iliotibial band problems before the last bout of asthma kind of knocked me out of commision before he got the laser, like I told you before it's been since October that I haven't trained and hence the IT band problem resolved itself for now but stretching and rolling didn't help so I was waiting to see, now I'm going to try stretching and rolling before I start going hard core again. Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks, ha ha we'll see. I am not sure if you can get my Email off your site but if not let me know and I'll forward you his number, and as with I think a few My chiropractor trains and understands the training mindset. again Thanks for looking out for us, and Stay Strong! Chris Hey Jedd I was thinking of you and my chiropractor now has a laser system he just started using to help promote healing If you want, Email me and I will give you his number to get more information he’s been using on some guys with problems and has had good results. I was having iliotibial band problems before the last bout of asthma kind of knocked me out of commision before he got the laser, like I told you before it’s been since October that I haven’t trained and hence the IT band problem resolved itself for now but stretching and rolling didn’t help so I was waiting to see, now I’m going to try stretching and rolling before I start going hard core again. Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks, ha ha we’ll see. I am not sure if you can get my Email off your site but if not let me know and I’ll forward you his number, and as with I think a few My chiropractor trains and understands the training mindset. again Thanks for looking out for us, and Stay Strong!
Chris

]]> By: Tim Hull http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain/comment-page-1#comment-2758 Tim Hull Wed, 25 Feb 2009 05:27:04 +0000 http://www.dieselcrew.com/?p=617#comment-2758 Jedd, Sounds like you are doing alot of good stuff for your thumb so far. A couple quick suggestions to speed healing and pain relief would be as follows: 1. do ice massage - fill a styrofoam cup 3/4 the way full of water and freeze. peel enough of the cup away so you can rub the ice on your thumb. should take around 5 min to numb out your thumb 2. self massage with golf ball - roll a golf ball around on the problem area either with oposite hand or on table pressing injured hand onto ball. This allows you to get deeper into the tissue breaking up any adheasions. This along with the stretching and strengthening your doing should help. Also ask your chiropractor to do ultrasound on the area, usually helps most of my patients. good luck with everything! Tim Jedd,

Sounds like you are doing alot of good stuff for your thumb so far. A couple quick suggestions to speed healing and pain relief would be as follows:

1. do ice massage – fill a styrofoam cup 3/4 the way full of water and freeze. peel enough of the cup away so you can rub the ice on your thumb. should take around 5 min to numb out your thumb
2. self massage with golf ball – roll a golf ball around on the problem area either with oposite hand or on table pressing injured hand onto ball. This allows you to get deeper into the tissue breaking up any adheasions.

This along with the stretching and strengthening your doing should help. Also ask your chiropractor to do ultrasound on the area, usually helps most of my patients.

good luck with everything!

Tim

]]> By: Jim Smith http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain/comment-page-1#comment-2757 Jim Smith Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:20:46 +0000 http://www.dieselcrew.com/?p=617#comment-2757 Chris, notes like yours are why I write bro. I am glad to hear something we put out helps somebody, so to know that you come to the site and check it out and it helps keep driving you forward means a lot to me. All the best to you, thanks for the well wishes, and many PR's to you! -Jedd- Chris, notes like yours are why I write bro. I am glad to hear something we put out helps somebody, so to know that you come to the site and check it out and it helps keep driving you forward means a lot to me. All the best to you, thanks for the well wishes, and many PR’s to you! -Jedd-

]]> By: Jim Smith http://www.dieselcrew.com/massive-thumb-pain/comment-page-1#comment-2756 Jim Smith Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:19:34 +0000 http://www.dieselcrew.com/?p=617#comment-2756 Goody, thanks for the note. I also saw your reply on STTB about the next possible article subject. Thanks dude. -Jedd- Goody, thanks for the note. I also saw your reply on STTB about the next possible article subject. Thanks dude. -Jedd-

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